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SLIMER tinkerer
Joined: 13 Aug 2003 Posts: 115
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 6:48 pm Post subject: Is this legal ????? |
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just want to know if its legal in Queensland to put a Series 5 13B Turbo motor and box out of an Mazda RX7 into a TF Gemini, i know you would have to upgrade all the mods like brakes and stuff, but is it able to be engineered and registered up there? as i might be moving up queensland and dont want to have to sell it...and also if it is legal, would my current engineers report be valid up there?...please reply as i will be moving up there if it is legal, (starting my own business spray-painting) |
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PinkBitz petrol head
Joined: 13 Apr 2002 Posts: 1594
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Is this legal ????? |
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cant see why not. should be all good, if you have the structural mods done. |
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ONLYA4 petrol head
Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 1114
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Is this legal ????? |
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I think you should move down to Melbourne... then you can paint my gemi lol. |
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rust3 backyard mechanic
Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Posts: 971
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Is this legal ????? |
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do you have a 13b turbo thats engineered in nsw?
i was looking at doing the conversion and found out the biggest you can go in nsw was a N/A 13b or a 12A turbo |
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mystikal21 tinkerer
Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 160
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Is this legal ????? |
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thats rite stay in melb and spray my car too |
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Blue TG tinkerer
Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 183
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Is this legal ????? |
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people percieve the rotary's capasity to be measured the same as that of a piston engine, "13b" is assumed the total capasity. in a sence it is, its the net volume of the rotor chambers, but due to the fact that they have 2 induction cycles per revolytion (hence 5 spark plugs) the total amount of combustion chamber is double thier capasity.
a more relevent capasity measurement for a 13b rotary is 2.6L (two cycles of a 1.3L combustion chamBer per 1 revolution)
wow that was really beside the point... i think they look at a 13b turbo as the equivelant of a 2.6 turbo piston engine but i couldnt tell u if that was legal |
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BonnetJizz tinkerer
Joined: 05 May 2003 Posts: 137
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Is this legal ????? |
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yea 2.6L in a gemi would be legal in qld man think its around 3L maximum to get engineered ... did u say if its turbo?
shoudl give us a job sandin back cars 4 ya wen u start workin mate :p |
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SLIMER tinkerer
Joined: 13 Aug 2003 Posts: 115
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: Is this legal ????? |
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to answer all the question, i have a 13B TURBO that i want to put in the gemini, i have had a 12A Turbo in a gemini before (engineered and registered in n.s.w)
and have had a 13B TURBO in a Mitsubishi Lancer the LA model..1975 model, it was also engineered and registered in n.s.w (legal) it only weighed around 800 kilo's, and i live in n.s.w at the moment, and lol i will be moving to queensland if it is legal, i have had people come from canberra to get their cars painted, but im not going to move to melbourne..sorry..lol. |
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whackenauffe tinkerer
Joined: 02 Apr 2003 Posts: 244
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:54 am Post subject: Re: Is this legal ????? |
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Where were you on the ECGC (sydney) cruise, |
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S N 3 A K Y tinkerer
Joined: 18 Jul 2003 Posts: 153
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 4:10 am Post subject: Re: Is this legal ????? |
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There's a post in R&D that sates the maximum engine capacity for forced and naturaly aspirated engine conversions in QLD.
The post states that the info was received directly from Department of Transport.
S N 3 A K Y |
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Gene FJ20DET hod rodder
Joined: 06 Oct 2001 Posts: 9163 Location: brisbane
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:59 am Post subject: SLIMER - your answer, no dribble |
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in QLD for a gemini
piston N/A - max 2.6L
piston forced induction - max 2.3L
rotor N/A - max 13b
rotor forced induction - max 12aT
this is all acording to the weight to power/engine volume laws in QLD. yes u can spend the money and have it all engineerd as an indevidual car like leroy has done to get his 350 chev gemini on the road. yes it is posable anything is if u have $$$$$$. but if u go out side these rules u will end up spending more money on engineering to get it legal then the whole conversion would cost u _________________
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rust3 backyard mechanic
Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Posts: 971
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: SLIMER - your answer, no dribble |
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so i was right
personaly i would grind the numbers off the 13b and stamp 12a numbers in. thats how im getting the 2.6L turbo engineered, luckily i have a 2L piazza block sitting in my shed.
hehe.... |
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Gene FJ20DET hod rodder
Joined: 06 Oct 2001 Posts: 9163 Location: brisbane
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: SLIMER - your answer, no dribble |
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hahah yeah u can do that but the 13b and and 12a look differnet _________________
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Gene FJ20DET hod rodder
Joined: 06 Oct 2001 Posts: 9163 Location: brisbane
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: SLIMER - your answer, no dribble |
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hahah yeah u can do that but the 13b and and 12a look differnet _________________
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SLIMER tinkerer
Joined: 13 Aug 2003 Posts: 115
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: SLIMER - your answer, no dribble |
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they look exactly the same, i have had a few rotors and havent seen the difference, i will do the grinding as soon as im up there..lol.
what would i have to do to get it registered then? |
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