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Momo backyard mechanic
Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Posts: 561
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 2:42 pm Post subject: 10" subs in parcel tray? |
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Just picked up 2x 10" Kicker subs and matching Kicker amp for my TD Coupe - got a custom built solid timber parcel tray. Anyone mounted subs in the parcel tray with success?? Or will it be better to make a box straight up??? |
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SickGEM rice boy
Joined: 05 Feb 2002 Posts: 19
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: 10" subs in parcel tray? |
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Momo...
It really depends on your needs as to where you put the subs. I needed the boot space. Overall, an enclosed sub box would produce better bass than freeair subs. I have a set of 6x9's and a 10" Lanzar sub in the parcel shelf and it fits great, also the sounds bloody good. The shelf is constructed of a 14mm MDF shelf that the 6x9's sit in, then I have a small second piece of 10mm MDF sitting on the shelf that the sub sits in. I needed to do this so that the magnet had enough clearence to the fuel tank. The bass produced is great, and the bass also doesn't reflect off the rear window (if you mount the sub at the right angle), which can sometimes muffle the bass.
Have a look at a photo of the setup here:
http://www.hotgemini.com/cgi-bin/gallery2.cgi?action=sc&vid=234&car=6 |
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nos tinkerer
Joined: 24 Apr 2002 Posts: 274
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: 10" subs in parcel tray? |
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how good is the sound if you put the subs in your boot though? is it real loud and clear or is it heaps mufled? also, can you at all make the middle back seat in a gem come down and put 2 subs in there facing into the cab? |
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Josh backyard mechanic
Joined: 04 Oct 2001 Posts: 602
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: 10" subs in parcel tray? |
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Not unless your subs are 5cm deep |
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MR_GEMI hod rodder
Joined: 05 Oct 2001 Posts: 7826 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: 10" subs in parcel tray? |
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hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha
sub in parcel shelf!
hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha
sorry just cant see it working well _________________
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nos tinkerer
Joined: 24 Apr 2002 Posts: 274
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: 10" subs in parcel tray? |
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nah, me neither. it just doesn't have the absorbency that abox does, the sound won't be what you're after |
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NeWaZ tinkerer
Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Posts: 161
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: 10" subs in parcel tray? |
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Momofan!
To mount subs in a parcel shelf they would be running FREE AIR. To do this your subs need to be free air subs because the majority of subs made are designed to run in a certain sized enclosure and will sound terrible if run in a free air environment (infinit baffle).
However if you purchase subs that are designed for this purpose then they will sound fine and deliver nice bass... Free Air subs will never sound as good as other subs but they are made because in some situations it is the only option availabe.
In conclusion i wouldn't be running those 10's free air if they are not designed to be...you wont be happy with the result
better off giving them the specified enclosure and giving up some boot space. |
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SickGEM rice boy
Joined: 05 Feb 2002 Posts: 19
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: 10" subs in parcel tray? |
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MR_GEMI...
Perhaps you should know someone who has done it first. I have done it see first post and it sounds great, and I also have amate who has a box in the boot and I couldn't find much difference. |
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maDGeMvAN tinkerer
Joined: 06 Oct 2001 Posts: 452
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: 10" subs in parcel tray? |
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Put them in a ported box in the boot facing rearwards. If you want, put one or two ports into your parcel shelf to let more bAsS in.
A boxed sub will always sound better than a 'free air' sub. That's just as long as the box is the correct size. |
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andy c tinkerer
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 75
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: 10" subs in parcel tray? |
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if it was mine id run the subs in the boot boxed. u need the inclosure. also in my gemi (1980 TE) the petrol take is right behind the rear seats. at first i thought it would muffle the sound but it doesnt mainly because im running 2 kenwood 6x9's in the parcel shelf and 2 12inch subs in the boot. thats the way to go. but thats just my opinion |
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Viper gemini rice boy
Joined: 01 Jan 2002 Posts: 43
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: 10" subs in parcel tray? |
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Yer i agree sickgem with subs you really dont no till you try it espicallly if your all using different brands. |
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Momo backyard mechanic
Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Posts: 561
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 11:13 pm Post subject: Thanks everyone - boxes it is. |
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Thanks for everyones input. From that feedback it is clearly better to run the subs in boxes. Next question....one box or two? |
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Racegem backyard mechanic
Joined: 30 Jan 2002 Posts: 987
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2002 1:26 am Post subject: Re: Boxes it is.... |
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Dave, part of it comes down to the subs. Subs designed to run 'free-air' will ideally sit in your parcel shelf, or on a board in the boot using the boot area as their enclosure. Subs designed to run in boxes are suited to just that. Then it depends on the correct enclosure volume for the sub. "Sealed or ported"? Put simply, sealed boxes are generally smaller and have tighter, punchier bass at lower volumes, while ported boxes tend to be twice the size but make more bass a higher volumes. The volume of the box is very critical for the best sound. One box will be fine for what you want, but try to find the volume specs for the subs. Very rough estimate, you'll need a box around 60lts.
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maDGeMvAN tinkerer
Joined: 06 Oct 2001 Posts: 452
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2002 1:39 am Post subject: Re: Thanks everyone - boxes it is. |
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If you use one box, it is best to have them in seperate chambers (same size). If one blows you can still listen to the other. If they are in the same chamber, both subs are more likely to be damaged at the same time |
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